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great googles, but weak battery housing
I love these goggles. I wear glasses and was able to put an eyeglass insert on the inside (with a little mod. of the eyeglass frame) and they work great. I have used them since 2009 and have gotten rid of all my other ones. The only problem is that in the middle of the ski season the battery case breaks at the top of where the battery is. Smith apparently uses polycarbonate - cannot be solvent or heat welded. I do a patch with scotch tape and get through the season. I send them in every summer to be repaired (which they promptly do). Smith needs to beef up the housing. Plastic get very brittle when cold (below freezing) and it is suprisingly hard to find scotch tape in the middle of the day on the mountain.
Fan is not silent
I just bought these goggles but haven't used them yet. I have another pair of Phenom's without the fan that I love, so I'm not concerned about performance. I just wanted to let everyone know that Smith's claim that the fan in silent is not accurate. I received these as a gift, and sent the first pair back because of the noisy fan. I though they were defective. I just received the replacement pair in the mail and they do the same thing. The ironic part is that the fan only buzzes when the goggles are upright, or in the position you'd where them in. When they are tilted down or upside down, the buzz goes away. I am still happy to have them as it sounds like they do really get rid of the fog. I just hope I don't have to leave the fan on all day (like the instructions say) because the buzz will drive me nuts! Great idea, but spend a little more R&D on a true silent fan!
Which one to buy for poor visibility? Could...
Which one to buy for poor visibility? Could I get the prescription lenses with this model? I have the Phenom Turbo Fan for good visibility with the lenses, but would like to have a second pair for poor visibility
Yes you can have RX lenses but you need to make sure it is the 2011 model which fits the ODS 2 RX inserts - I myself just bought the ODS2 prescription inserts and have confirmed that they will fit the 2011 version of Phenom Turbo (ofhers that will work is Prophecy and knowledge turbo)
Can anyone tell me what the diff is between...
Can anyone tell me what the diff is between the Prophecy and Phenom Smith Turbo series goggles? I've been looking at the Phenom Turbo; however, I don't see the option for the Sensor Mirror lens on them like I do with the Prophecy. If no diff's then I can make a decision.
Smith Knowledge OTG Turbo Fan: Accommodates a wide range of eyeglass sizes, should fit all types of bulky glasses.
Smith Prophecy Turbo Fan: Accommodate most eyeglasses without the added bulk of traditional OTG goggles. More of a tighter, close fit goggle for glasses.
Smith Phenom Turbo Fan: For everyone that DO NOT wear glasses.
I suggest you look around at buying a sensor lens, or wait for BackCountry.com to stock up on more Sensor versions, if your after the sensor, and assuming you dont wear glasses under the goggles... The Phenom is the style you'd want to go for.
Hope that helps :)
I will also add, the non-turbo fan series Phenom goggle lens also fit the same as the turbo fan series Phenom. I bought a bunch of the Smith Phenom lens and use them on my Phenom Turbo-fan. The only difference is the lens on the non-turbo fan have an added sliding vent at the top. I like it better then not having the sliding vent anyways... seems like an added bonus to me. I've been using the goggles and lens a lot for over 3 years now.
Check them out here: http://www.backcountry.com/smith-phenom-replacement-goggle-lens
There's a sensor there! Your choice. they fit though, and no performance is lost, performance improved in my opinion.
Smith Phenom Turbo Fan Goggle
I brought these with the ODS for my prescription lens, just before a trip where we had a lot of snow falling on the slopes. They performed great, better than expected. The goggle lens did not fog, but my prescription lens did have some slight fogging, this was easily fixed by turning the fan on low for a minute while on the lift. I have always used sunglasses while snowboarding in the past and it was strange at first using goggle, but now I can't imagine going down the slopes without goggles. They kept the wind and snow from my eyes and offered great definition during the night sessions. I brought the Sensor Mirror lens which wasn't too ideal in brighter conditions, thinking of getting a different set of lens for sunny days. Would definitely recommend these for friends and family.
I bought these goggles specifically for heli-skiing in Alaska. I decided to test them out in advance at Big Sky, MT. Having purchased the "sensor mirror" for poor light conditions, I found these goggles to be great in 2 different areas. While I didn't have the opportunity to ski during any significant snowfall, which typically creates fog, I was able to induce fog within the lenses. The fan got rid of all the fog immeidately. The feature definitely works and it works fast. The lens was also great in flat light, as I had no trouble making out all that was in front of me.
Smith Phenom Turbo Fan @ Big Sky
Trip to Big Sky, MT during 12/2010. Using the "Sensor Mirror" lens for flatter light.
Smith Phenom w/ Turbo Fan
Black Smith Phenom w/ Turbo Fan, White bottom clips. w/ Mirror lens.
There GREAT-Imagine tony the tiger saying that
Bought these on Tramdock, because I always wanted the fan option. Before I had these I always skied with two pairs of goggles, but now I'm a one goggle skier. I've noticed I rarely need the fan, because they vent so darn well. When they do start to get a little fogged hiking I turn on the fan, and boom there fog free. I think they vent better than other Smiths because the fan even when not on increases air flow. Very comfy, pretty durable. I did have a mishap after a hard landing where I noticed the little wire from the battery pack was a little pulled off. One other thing, when sitting in a backpack they occasionally turned themselves on. Overall another great product from Smith.
I have a hole in my tear duct that allows air out and this causes a huge problem with goggles fogging. I ski almost weekly and these goggles have solved my problem. They have never fogged and I don't notice the fan. They were the perfect answer.
Will they fit over my glasses? And will...
Will they fit over my glasses? And will they prevent my glasses from fogging inside the goggles?
They can fit over your glasses, but it will be a tight fit. The fan most likely will help your glasses not to fog compared to a non-fan phenom goggle. If your only option is to wear classes then look at the Smith OTG goggles first, or Smith Prophecy. If contacts is an option then use that for skiing. Contacts make a huge difference right there.
Looking for goggles that will not fog, but have to fit a small woman's face and helmut.
Will these goggles fit a small women's...
Will these goggles fit a small women's face?
Yes. It might feel a bit bigger compared to an Oakley A-frame though.
Is the battery pack removable so the goggles...
Is the battery pack removable so the goggles can be used without it?
You can remove the battery pack, but it involves a screw driver. Its not meant to be taken off. It would be cool if they made them so you could take it off on the fly. But then you run into the problem of forgetting to put on your battery pack when it's pounding snow.
I have been using this goggle with my Smith Variant Helmet for about two seasons now. All around I have liked these goggles. The fan is so quiet that I forget to turn it off sometimes so I have a dead battery the next day I go out.
I can't say that these goggles are impossible to fog. I have done it on a number of occasions. Usually a couple spots here and there. I contacted Smith warranty about this and they told me to put them under a blow dryer after every use. I was a little peeved by this answer as I expect better from these goggles. All around it's never kept me from riding.
Another issue I have had with the goggles is when the wind is really blowing (40-50mph winds) I have had snow come through the fan port and hit me in the eye. It wasn't a huge problem it was just a little annoying.
No fogging, quiet, perfect.
A total upgrade to the fan goggles I used to have. When hiking and having sweat coming down my brow any other goggles would have fogged but these did not. I have a medium to large face and felt that these did just fine. Get the sensor mirror for flat light, they will not be enough for bright days. I am recommending these goggles to every one I know. They are probably not needed if your not earning some turns however. Btw i dont notice any problems with the fan, you can hear it a little but not a problem.
Ditto what most say. however, I am a bike commuter and have been wearing ski goggles during the winter for three years now, and these are a godsend. They work as expected, I only wish they had a clear lens for those late night commuters, however, since i commuter on city streets, the lights are good enough not to compromise visibility. Excellent in rain and foggy mornings! Make the investment!
Are the lenses for the Phenom Turbo Fan...
Are the lenses for the Phenom Turbo Fan the same as for (and interchangeable with) the regular Phenom? I've heard both yes and no.
Almost 100% sure they are the same lens.
I see now that the Turbo Fan lenses have no vents. I'm guessing I probably don't want to swap them for ones with vents or vice-versa.
The only difference with the Phenom Turbo Fan from the Regular Phenom is the frame of the goggle has a custom fan built into it. The lenses are interchangeable. I own RC36, Platinum, and Sensor which can be exchanged on both the Regular and turbo fan Phenoms.
Here is a list of some more lenses that will work: http://www.gogglesgiant.com/smitlencol.html
No fogging, very durable, but choose a lens carefully
Fortunately I wasn't attached to them at the time, but I recently dropped a pair of these and watched them fall out of sight. Four days later I found them in a steep, rock gully nearly 2000 feet below. Aside from some scratches, the Phenom's survived that abuse well- so I give these goggles a 10-outa-10 in the durability department. I chose the Sensor Mirror lens to cover a wide range of light conditions, and found this tint a little light for bright, sunny days- but in low light conditions and flat overcast they were awesome. The fan worked well even while sweating during -35F climbing days, an impressive contrast in temperatures. I found the lowest of 2 fan speed setting too low to have any affect, so bring an extra battery and expect to use the higher speed setting if you plan on working up a sweat. Downside- the hum of the fan can be a little annoying after 10 hours.
Great before they broke
These were my absolute best item of gear until this winter. They were the only solution to my lifelong fogging problem, and they worked brilliantly. They are very simple and the tech is quite simple but they just work. Or they did. I have always been very careful with them but this winter the area between the two lenses has been compromised and moisture has got in. The worst thing was that it happened on a fantastic day in the mountains - big storm at Park City, 20+ inches of fresh stuff. Throughout the day they got more and more fogged until I could see hardly nothing at all. I was very disappointed with them.I believe Smith have a lifetime warranty on their goggles so I am going to contact them and see what happens.
Update: After months of email communication with the UK importers of Smith Goggles I finally got a decision: Sorry, you are not covered by the Lifetime Warranty as you bought the goggles in another country. Not happy but not surprised either. My fogging issues reappeared recently during a huge powder day at Squaw. The Turbo-Fans would've been perfect...sadly I will not be buying another pair. Thanks for nothing, Smith :(